Pattern Emerges: Three More Virginia Planned Parenthood Clinics Caught On Tape Willing to Aid and Abet Sexual Exploitation of Minors

Live Action: “An institutional crisis has engulfed the highest levels of Planned Parenthood”

Footage Released Today From Clinics in Falls Church, Roanoke and Charlottesville All Show Staff Willing to Help Pimp Posing as Sex-Trafficker

Media contact: Kate Bryan, (323) 454-3304, media@liveaction.org

February 4, 2011 – Following yesterday’s shocking revelation of video from a Richmond, Va. Planned Parenthood investigation, Live Action today released undercover footage from three more Virginia Planned Parenthood clinics – in Falls Church, Charlottesville and Roanoke – which clearly show staff willing to aid and abet the sexual trafficking and exploitation of minors and young women. Following the release of video earlier this week from clinics in New Jersey and Richmond, Va., this latest footage provides more evidence of a clear, disturbing pattern of gross misconduct by Planned Parenthood.

“It is utterly disgusting that Planned Parenthood’s response to this is that their employee reacted ‘professionally,’” said Live Action President Lila Rose.  “The only acceptable response to encountering a self-identified sex-trafficker of underage girls is zero tolerance.

The only ‘professional’ response is to immediately call law enforcement to the scene and push for an arrest. Our investigation – and  their response – continues to show that an institutional crisis has engulfed the highest levels of Planned Parenthood. If you’re a sex-trafficker of minors or young women, you have a partner in Planned Parenthood. But if you are a minor or a young woman, you are not safe at Planned Parenthood clinics,” Rose continued.

The footage shows a man who identifies himself as a pimp working with underage girls. He seeks assistance for getting abortions, STD testing and birth control for girls he “manages” as sex workers, who are from out of the country and as young as 14 to 15 years old. The investigation continues to unearth alarming evidence that Planned Parenthood, which receives more than $350 million from the American taxpayer every year, is willing to facilitate the sexual exploitation of minors and young women.

“Today, we are sending Attorney General Cuccinelli and Virginia law enforcement officials new, disturbing footage from three Virginia clinics. The footage explicitly shows Planned Parenthood staff willing to engage in activity that sexually exploits minors and young women. The evidence continues to mount, and shows a clear pattern where Planned Parenthood is willing aid and abet the sex-trafficking industry. These are abhorrent practices and it is time Planned Parenthood be held accountable,” Rose said.

Findings in these Virginia videos:

• Falls Church – Abortions for underage girls from other countries only require a photo ID.

Planned Parenthood staffer: “We don’t necessarily look at the legal status, like I said. Abortion appointments do require photo ID. It’s nothing as far as records. It’s just photo ID that’s ever going to be required.”

• Roanoke – Birth control and STD testing for underage prostitutes is no problem

Planned Parenthood staffer: “From the age of 12 up, for birth control, you can just come in and do that. You don’t have to have a parent, OK?”

Planned Parenthood staffer discussing STD testing: “And the thing is, see this is the thing a lot of people don’t know that. . .Right, through the Health Department.  And so, they’ll uh, they’ll track it. And they’re discreet.  They’re confidential.  They, you know, don’t tell people what’s going on, because – frankly – it’s nobody’s business.”

• Charlottesville – Birth control and testing for STDs and pregnancy for underage girls with no questions asked.

Planned Parenthood staffer: “Anybody here can help you. Everything here is confidential. We can’t give any information out.”

Access videos at:

Read letter to Attorney General Cuccinelli here.

Live Action has previously released more than a dozen hidden camera videos from ten states. This body of visual evidence shows several alarming patterns of illegal Planned Parenthood activities including cover-up of sexual abuse of minors, the skirting of parental consent laws, citing unscientific and fabricated medical information to manipulate women to have abortions, and Planned Parenthood’s willingness to accept donations earmarked to abort African-American babies.

Investigation transcripts:

  • http://globalnoize.org Tito Santiago

    If these are crimescommitted according to Federal Laws, when are we going to see legal action taken aagainst Planned Parenthood? Why is the Federal Goverment dragging their feet on the blatant disregard for their laws? It's time ffor charges to be filed, assets & bank accounts frozen just as if they were a criminal organization, which by their continual practices & actions…they are.

    • MoonChild02

      It's because Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation were our President's main backers on his campaign, and I believe (but am not 100% sure) that he is an honorary board member, or something like that. Even if he's not a board member or anything of the sort, he is a major backer of theirs, and they are major backers of him. He is fully pro-abortion up until the baby is taken out of the hospital, and is fully pro-PP. As long as he is in office, there is a VERY slim chance of indicting PP. Even if they were indicted, he would probably have them pardoned.

      • Ben_Cole

        It's because these are NOT "crimescommitted" in any sense of the word. Putting aside for a moment that PP employees at the facilities involved *did* report to the authorities, there is nothing illegal about failing to report dress-up activists.

        • livewell8

          The standard in many states is to report "suspected" child abuse, whether there was actual child abuse does not matter.

  • kristen

    These "sting" operations are only endangering underprivileged women and children, not preventing abortions. This does not encourage women to seek abortion alternatives, it only forces child prostitutes and their pimps to hide even further underground with zero chance of intervention. Now they will for sure end up on the end of their pimps coat hangers, in fear of seeking any medical treatment. If you want to bring an end to abortion, offer superior alternatives for these desperate people. Though your intentions may be in the right place, your actions now may have come at the expense of those who are the most destitute in our society. Please in the future consider whom you are truly hurting. These recent "stings" truly saved no unborn babies, but only compromised the safety of people that can't afford adequate health care.

    • http://themorningafter.us pharmer1

      The planned parenthood gurl writes this after we all heard Amy Woodruff (NJ clinic) telling the pimp to send his slaves further underground, to another abortion clinic, to avoid detection of the 14 year olds.

      • Ben_Cole

        it wasn't a "pimp" it was a live action actor. it wasn't a "slave" it was an actor.
        your moral outrage is completely & pathetically non-responsive to kristen's legitimate points. What are you going to do to provide health services to at-risk Americans once PP is defunded & destroyed?
        EDIT: more downvotes without responses? i am disappointed. if you disagree with me please have the balls to explain why!

    • MoonChild02

      Regular health clinics can give help to underprivileged women and children, and cost less than PP does. Crisis pregnancy centers/pregnancy care centers do too – for free.

      All medical/health clinic workers – including everyone at Planned Parenthood – are mandatory reporters. They HAVE to report abuse, but these videos show that those working at PP obviously don't. They are trained in how to act in situations like this, as to work in any health center or school, a person is mandated by law to attend training seminars on how to deal with such situations, or they cannot work in any such environment. Yet, the people in these videos do NOT follow protocol AT ALL. In one of the videos, the person even left the room TWICE, and law enforcement was not called.

      Whether you are pro-life or pro-abortion choice does not matter. The fact is that sex trafficking is a MAJOR problem, and is a federal offense, and the clinicians in these videos aided a man who they believed to be such a criminal, gave him advice on how to circumvent the law, let him get away. They even let the woman they believed to be a prostitute of his leave with him without offering her any help.

      These stings do NOT compromise anyone's safety, but further prove what many of us already know, and make those facts more widely known: That PP aids abusers, and sends the abused right back to them without offering them help. These videos were made in the hope that such a criminal organization as PP would be exposed for what it truly is, and our tax dollars not wasted on it (at least $300 million per year in federal funds, and even more in state and local funds).

      If you want to support PP, that's your prerogative. Just don't make the rest of us do so, and know that you're supporting people who aid abusers, and not the abused.

      Just so you know, Life Dynamics has already done a study, along with their own sting operation, on the abuse that Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation have participated in. However, their investigation has not had very much publicity. You can find the information regarding the investigation by going to http://childpredators.com/ .

      • Ben_Cole

        > the clinicians in these videos aided a man who they believed to be such a criminal, gave him advice on how to circumvent the law, let him get away.

        You have no proof that they believed the terrible actors were criminals. You have no proof that they failed to properly notify authorities after the encounters took place. Get off your high horse you sanctimonious crocodile!

        • livewell8

          If they had contacted authorities right way, they would have made that known to the media when asked. Considering what they point to is talking to the FBI a week later, it can be assumed they didn't contact law enforcement in 4 of 5 cases. The AGs will get to the bottom of it when they interview PP.

          • Ben_Cole

            Your memory isn't great. You lost this same exact arg to me not even 24 hours ago (http://liveaction.org/blog/pattern-emerges-three-more-virginia-planned-parenthood-clinics-caught-on-tape-willing-to-aid-and-abet-sexual-exploitation-of-minors/#IDComment126228702).

            In case you forgot: it's FBI policy to neither provide details on tips that were called in nor to affirm or deny whether an investigation has in fact been launched. That is the FBI's decision, not PP. Stop spreading misinformation.

          • livewell8

            PP is free to speak. Where is the evidence that PP reported to local PD? Just paste it in if it exists man.

          • Ben_Cole

            PP is supposed to provide evidence of phone calls (i.e. call their provider and obtain records, which believe me is NOT easy) just to appease people who want to destroy PP? Ummmm, tryna write a fantasy novel or something?

          • livewell8

            You have nothing it sounds like. Looks like PP is in for a lot of trouble as AG investigations confirm this.

            Tell me, who did PP contact the same day in the 5 clinics? I don't need phone records, just names of PD department and date contacted.

          • Ben_Cole

            What "AG investigation"?
            No I don't have the names of the "PD departments" (sic, LOL) and the dates on which they were contacted. Neither do you have any information to indicate that they *weren't* contacted so I dunno why you think they're "in for a lot of trouble."
            Oh and there's that other troubling point about all this, which is that there is NO LEGAL DUTY TO CALL IN HOAXES! I'm sorry your plan was all about PR and has no good law to stand on.

          • livewell8

            "What "AG investigation"? You need to read more news articles. When you get up to speed on what is going on, then maybe we can have a discussion.

          • Ben_Cole

            LOL I've read about the conservative VA AG who called the video "astonishing." Why don't you send me the link about his investigation and the substantive claims he's thinking of raising against PP?

            EDIT: Whadya know he's the same nutjob who wants to "fast-track" healthcare repeal to SCOTUS. Does preventing Americans from getting health insurance jive with your virulent hatred of PP the same way it does for Cuckoo-nelli?

          • livewell8

            It is the NJ AG that is already investigating. The VA AG said he is reviewing all the footage and will make a statement sometime this week I think. You are right though, we don't know for sure what he will do. We will just have to wait and see but the Gov of VA is urging an investigation.

          • Ben_Cole

            I found nothing indicating that the NJ Attorney General has launched an investigation into PP's behavior. Maybe you search Google News better than me.
            Oh and you still refuse to answer my question about when abortions are OK. Or is that too much to ask?

          • livewell8

            Attorney General Paula Dow asked the Division of Criminal Justice to investigate whether the manager broke any laws. "At first glance, I find these allegations to be very disturbing," Dow said in a statement. Her spokesman Paul Loriquet said Gov. Chris Christie’s office and some legislators had referred the matter to her attention.
            http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/planned_

          • Ben_Cole

            Meh. Tokenistic and meaningless reply if you ask me. She's just saying what you Pharisees wanna hear. If you want me to take these "investigations" seriously, give me one plausible scenario for charging PP with a crime. The fact that the AG doesn't even suggest what laws might have been broken is pretty telling to me.

    • Don LaRegina

      Kristen:I strongly disagree.
      Somehow we’re always conned
      into believing that PPFA is
      a benevolent organization that
      helps the less fortunate.It
      isn’t so.
      I invite you to study the
      history of PP.Pay particular
      attention to writings of its
      founder Margaret Sanger.
      Just do that.
      Big Don

      • Ben_Cole

        Hi Big Don. I have studied the history of PP including the writings of Margaret Sanger. Among the atrocities that Ms. Sanger experienced were the repeated, often fatal attempts at self-abortion undertaken by married women whose husbands had either no access to or refused to use contraceptive methods. Comments?

  • Karla

    Please post these on to youtube!

  • Cristina

    Praying for you Lila and team!

    Though the world hates you remember the world hated the Lord and its truth first!

    There is victory in our Lord.

    Martin Luther King, all the angels and saints are praying for us!

    NYC is standing by you all in this battle!

    QUE VIVA CRISTO REY!

  • Cathy

    @Kristin, LiveAction cares deeply for underage girls! The point is that PP is supporting illegal and immoral activity by servicing girls that young without parental consent, whether they are prostitutes or not, when PP should be working with law enforcement and social workers to help those girls get out of prostitution or other crisis situations and give them resources to live in a dignified, law-abiding way without exploiting themselves. There are better alternatives, crisis pregnancy and women's health services that provide not only abortion alternatives, but the love and support these women have ultimately been doing without. Such services should be more widely available and easily searchable online, which means they need more funding, more public support overall to get the word out, especially in low-income areas. Try doing a web search for "women's health center/clinic/reproductive health clinic" and Planned Parenthood is always one of the first few links and it's almost impossible to find a clinic (unless you know the exact name of it) that doesn't offer, err, promote, abortion as the only alternative in an unplanned pregnancy. It's simply atrocious. Let's pray for positive change and support LiveAction's heroic work to reform women's reproductive health clinics.

    • alexa_bear

      Cathy you write: " it's almost impossible to find a clinic (unless you know the exact name of it) that doesn't offer, err, promote, abortion as the only alternative in an unplanned pregnancy."

      There are a whole lot of other people on this blog who have gone out of their way to explain to me that there are MANY clinics available that will offer health services to women but not abortion, for free. They have told me this repeatedly and used it as an argument for why we should defund PP — because there are so many other affordable non-abortion clinics out there. So, I'm confused about why you're suddenly saying there aren't any alternatives.

      Are these services available, or aren't they? What's the reality? Get your story straight, guys.

  • Becca

    Even though this actually makes me sick to my stomach, I appreciate the work you've been doing more than you'll ever know. Our state senate voted down a bill that would have put new standards on these clinics after being passed by the house. I posted this to AG Cuccinelli's fb page as soon as I saw it to try and get it out to other friends on fb that way. There was already a push to do something after the first video, but it's beyond words by now.

  • NLong

    Praying for you Lila!

    You are not alone!

  • anonyhans

    Why did Live Action manipulate the video?

    Compare:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5nL2j2B9W0&fe

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  • Holly Hansard

    "Planned Parenthood" is not "Planned Parenthood." "Planned Not parenthood" is more like it. Wow, conspiracy in an under age international sex trafficing ring! Wow, the fact that a Planned Parenthood employee is willing to provide the leader of the international "bad guy-exploiter-of-young women victimns of poverty and the "sex trade" going on in plain sight and behind closed doors in the abortion industry! Wow! This is NOTHING to do with "women's rights" or protecting women and children! This is CRIMINAL!

    • Ben_Cole

      > the leader of the international "bad guy-exploiter-of-young women victimns of poverty

      Huh? Who the hell upvoted this inanity?

  • Holly Hansard

    Planned Parenthood” is not “Planned Parenthood.” “Planned Not parenthood” is more like it. Wow, conspiracy in an under age international sex trafficing ring! Wow, a Planned Parenthood employee willing to provide the leader of the international “bad guy-exploiter-of-young women victimns of poverty and the “sex trade” help to keep his business going. This is going on in plain sight and behind closed doors in the abortion industry! At Planned Parenthood even, not just back alley or Philadephia abortion monster places. Wow! This is NOTHING to do with “women’s rights” or protecting women and children! THIS IS CRIMINAL!

    • Alice W

      As my dad always called it, “Planned Barrenhood”.

      • Bridget

        Amen.

  • poetcomic1

    The Baby Butcher of Philadelphia (who's non-medical 'assistant' played with a live baby for ten minutes then casually cut its throat) was untouched by 'regulatory' agencies for years and years. Planned Parenthood needn't worry.

  • Ben Cole

    "There are better alternatives, crisis pregnancy and women’s health services that provide not only abortion alternatives, but the love and support these women have ultimately been doing without."

    What services? Will you give me love and support if I'm not a conservative? A religious fundamentalist?

    What is an 'abortion alternative'? As far as I can tell a pregnant woman either carries to term or aborts. What 'alternative' am I missing?

    > The point is that PP is supporting illegal and immoral activity by servicing girls that young without parental consent.

    So the 'moral' thing to do would be to refuse STD testing for teenagers? And then what? Tell them to pray? Ask them not to have sex anymore?

    Or maybe you'll send pregnant teens packing to an abusive parent who'll beat them for getting pregnant and then threaten to beat them again if they get an abortion? That sounds like 'positive change' right?

    • Ben_Cole

      All these downvotes but no responses? c'mon you Pharisees can do better than that!

    • MoonChild02

      "What services? Will you give me love and support if I'm not a conservative? A religious fundamentalist?

      "What is an 'abortion alternative'? As far as I can tell a pregnant woman either carries to term or aborts. What 'alternative' am I missing?"

      They provide counseling, compassion, health care services, give them clothes and baby items, provide housing, food, education, job training, job opportunities, baby sitting, help with paying bills, etc. They teach Natural Family Planning. They offer adoption services as well.

      CPCs give these services to anyone of any background at all who walks in the door. It doesn't matter what religion or political affiliation you are.

      "So the 'moral' thing to do would be to refuse STD testing for teenagers? And then what? Tell them to pray? Ask them not to have sex anymore?"

      STD testing can be done at any health clinic. If someone doesn't have any money, they can go to a free clinic. There are tons of those around.

      "Or maybe you'll send pregnant teens packing to an abusive parent who'll beat them for getting pregnant and then threaten to beat them again if they get an abortion? That sounds like 'positive change' right? "

      That is not what pro-lifers do, or would even advocate. That's why CPCs exist, is to help those who need it. CPCs also help people escape abusive situations, by bringing them to battered women and children shelters, and reporting abuse to the police – right when it is reported, according to protocol.

      Those girls who are afraid of their parents should go to someone they trust will help them. Planned Parenthood has a record of sending the abused right back to the abusers, and it has to stop.

      Furthermore, being that statutory rape is such a major crime, those who work at Planned Parenthood, like school teachers or anyone else who works with children, are mandated reporters. If they see an underage girl come in for an abortion, they are mandated by federal law report it.

      Most of the time, sexual abuse is not caused by someone on the streets, it is caused by those closest to us – family members, teachers, doctors, anyone who would be a trusted member of our lives. Therefore, whether or not the girls are brought in by family members for an abortion, the abortion MUST be reported to the police right away, because the pregnancy is due to statutory rape, and the child that was conceived in the rape is considered evidence. If the abortion is performed without notifying the police, the rapist gets away with it, and the abused girl is sent back to be raped again.

      When PP clinicians don't report an underage girl who wants an abortion to the police, they are enabling a rapist, and committing a felony. Would you rather send the girl back to the rapist, only to have her raped again and possibly have to go in for another abortion later, or have law enforcement called, have the rapist arrested, and send the girl into protective custody and out of harm's way?

      • Ben_Cole

        Your argument essentially boils down to "PP does everything wrong but CPCs do everything right." My response: cite please.

        • Tech01

          Ben_Cole:  Kindly go do your own research
          on the positive things being done for pregnant females who are carrying their
          pre-born babies to live birth and beyond.   Whenever you do not have
          any serious rebuttal to reply with, you hide behind your over-worked cliché
          “Cite please”. 

          After reading your many statements here, I see that you truly ARE a shill for
          PP.   You are definitely behind in your knowledge of current
          biological information. 

          You would have a fan if a certain fellow knew you.  That is the
          young man in his twenties who, on television, recounted how between him and his
          TWO girl friends, they could account for about 17 abortions.  Great
          customers of PP. 

          So, Mr. Ben, you will continue on defending the baby killers with your
          selective “logic”.  Retroactive abortion, perhaps, should be
          made available, in case your mother might be interested. 

          To use your favorite response: “Cite please” your source of moral
          authority for deciding which pre-born “fetus” (little one) (tiny
          child) shall be killed and which one shall be “permitted” to
          live.  We, your peers, might find your reasoning useful for deciding which
          group to place you into. 

          Whether you respond to my comments or not is of no concern to me.  You are
          still quoting from rather old PP brochures.  You may as well consider my
          comments to be rhetorical since I will not bother to spend my time in an
          intellectual wrestling match with a person trapped in sophistry.  Others
          here before me have done a thorough job of providing you with enough
          information to come to a current understanding of the value of each human life.

          I came to this thread by indirect means while doing other research and will
          return to my original work. 

  • rachybabe

    @Ben..Abortion doesn't save victims of domestic violence, child abuse, or rape. If the problem is their environment they "go back to" what does abortion change about that? and PP isn't the only place for StD testing, it can be done in a real health care center, one that doesn't pressure them to abort.

    • Ben_Cole

      >and PP isn't the only place for StD testing, it can be done in a real health care center, one that doesn't pressure them to abort.

      i keep hearing this point raised with NO support whatsoever. PP has 820 centers serving over *5 million* clients. what "real health center(s)" are going to fill this void once your myopic agenda succeeds?

      it's disgustingly obvious that you don't care about provision of health services, just ending abortion. if you really cared about ppl, why do you want PP defunded when NONE of its public funding goes to providing abortions? yes you heard that right NOT ONE DIME of your taxpayer money funds abortions, as it is ILLEGAL by ACT OF GONRESS! be honest: how many of you actually knew that?

      • livewell8

        There are thousands of centers across the country that do the same work as Planned Parenthood without the abortions or unethical behavior. In the Virgina videos we released, the Planned Parenthood clinic talked about how people could go to the county health department for free to treat STDs because Planned Parenthood charges for that. Lots of PP's public funding goes for abortion. The funds are fungible as well as at the state level, Planned Parenthood gets lots of money directly for abortions…not federal money but state level money. They also build their abortion centers with federal money and then offer abortions inside. Abortions make good money so they just need federal dollars to pay for the building and staff…the abortions pay for themselves.

        • Ben_Cole

          > There are thousands of centers across the country that do the same work as Planned Parenthood without the abortions or unethical behavior.

          I could just as easily say that PP saves one billion lives per year, doesn't make it true. You keep dodging the question "What type of service providers *would* you fund?" by simply asserting "there are some out there, they exist." i ask again: what is your plan to provide services for the 5 million clients who would be basically screwed after PP goes under?

          > about how people could go to the county health department for free to treat STDs because Planned Parenthood charges for that.

          So PP does treat STDs but they're expensive. And your solution is to cut off funding cuz that'll make it…cheaper?

          >The funds are fungible as well as at the state level

          LOL.

          >Planned Parenthood gets lots of money directly for abortions…not federal money but state level money.

          Cite please.

          > Abortions make good money so they just need federal dollars to pay for the building and staff…the abortions pay for themselves.

          Cite please.

          P.S. if you don't have cites, that's OK. Here's a good place to get started on your research. http://www.aclu.org/reproductive-freedom/public-f

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  • aaron burns

    It was already proven that planned parenthood reported this to the fbi. They have to let law enforcement collect evidence so the actual perps get put away.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102010014

    • Ben_Cole

      LOL. Unbelievable – one simple piece of evidence that explodes the entire Live Action myth elicits multiple downvotes and not a single rational response. Go figure.

  • Kell Brigan

    If PP went to the cops, WHERE ARE THE COPS SPEAKING UP FOR PP AT PRESS CONFERENCES?

    If PP went to the cops, WHY DID THEY FIRE THE NEW JERSEY MANAGER?

    As for the specious "manipulated audio" claims (which prove absolutely nothing about the content of these tapes) why are you only claiming this about the tape that shows the speaker the least? Why aren't you trying to show how the NJ tape was "manipulated?" A:BECAUSE YOU CAN'T. STOP LYING!

    • Ben_Cole

      > If PP went to the cops, WHERE ARE THE COPS SPEAKING UP FOR PP AT PRESS CONFERENCES?

      Since when is it the responsibility of the police to get involved in political debates?

      > If PP went to the cops, WHY DID THEY FIRE THE NEW JERSEY MANAGER?

      Probably b/c they recognized the potential for violent overreactions to the "pimp" video. Not that I blame them…

  • Kell Brigan

    Q: I wonder how the nation's blood banks feel about PP recommending pimps use their limited fund and resources as a free source of VD testing.

    • Ben_Cole

      Uh, they probably don't give a you-know-what about fake pimps. Nice try.

    • alexa_bear

      They are probably pleased to have anyone recommending blood donors to them. They don't have limited funds, they have limited donors. And they're not going to use contaminated blood. In fact they won't even draw blood if, based on a thorough lifestyle questionnaire and physical exam with a registered nurse, they assess that you might not be a good blood donor.

      In fact, this is what I don't get about anti-choicers: you want to force women to go through childbirth because it saves lives. But you won't force Americans to donate blood, because it's a minor inconvenience? Each time you donate blood you save like 4-6 lives. Based on pro-life reasoning, why don't you try to enact laws that force all Americans to donate blood?

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  • http://themorningafter.us pharmer1

    There is evidence online that people who work to save kids from sex slavery have become disgusted with planned parenthood.
    This is as it should be.

    Live Action has "ACORNed"* planned parenthood and much of the mainstream media in a single operation, and I will continue to help spread the word, as I have from the start.

    Thank you for your service to our country.

    * "ACORN"- verb- to systematically use technology and effective undercover agents to expose the inherent corruption inside an organization, establishment or institution.

    • Ben_Cole

      > inherent corruption

      What is the difference between "inherent" corruption and "atmospheric" or "experiential" corruption? Or do you just like throwing words around?

      Also, since we're on the topic, what is "corruption" to you? To me it means kickbacks, bribery, fraud and abuse of public trust. What do any of those things have to do with PP?

      • http://themorningafter.us pharmer1

        Ben Cole: Since you won't find anything wrong with the killing done at planned parenthood, nor the poor quality of medical care provided there, which has the patients running to legitimate hospitals with infections and blood clots, etc, here's another issue.

        The health care professionals are required by law to report the abuse of minors. We know that planned parenthood does not comply well with this requirement, because compliance would turn away too much business.

        Have you looked up the word inherent? It describes a permanent, intrinsic element or characteristic.

        The primary function and purpose of planned parenthood is is seen as corrupt to those who find willful killing to be wrong. PP fosters and profits from human misery.

        How do we know that planned parenthood's primary function is killing? They have instituted a policy that all if its affiliates must do abortions. Also they instruct their directors in methods to increase the abortion business, which constitutes its largest source of income.

        • Ben_Cole

          > Since you won't find anything wrong with the killing done at planned parenthood

          "Killing"? Last time I checked Americans were deeply divided over whether or not a fetus is a human being. What do you know that they don't?

          > poor quality of medical care provided there which has the patients running to legitimate hospitals with infections and blood clots, etc, here's another issue.

          Cite please.

          > The health care professionals are required by law to report the abuse of minors.

          Of course they are. But actors making up outrageous stories about abuse and actual abuse are quite different.

          > We know that planned parenthood does not comply well with this requirement, because compliance would turn away too much business.

          Do we? In 2005 the DDHS (under the pro-life Bush administration) launched a comprehensive investigation finding *no* failure to comply. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/11/04/pare

          > The primary function and purpose of planned parenthood is is seen as corrupt to those who find willful killing to be wrong.

          I find willful killing to be wrong but I don't understand what is corrupt about PP's primary function and purpose.

          > How do we know that planned parenthood's primary function is killing? They have instituted a policy that all if its affiliates must do abortions. Also they instruct their directors in methods to increase the abortion business, which constitutes its largest source of income.

          You give no citation for any of these arguments, probably because they are blatant lies. Less than 3% of all services provided by PP are abortions. http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/fact_

          • http://themorningafter.us pharmer1

            It's all about the science. I don't worry about what cultish religionists, such as the pro-aborts, have to say about their own moral authority to decide which humans may be gratuitously killed.

            So, sticking with what is known in Biology, (Ben is over 100 years behind on this) and needs to buy the only accepted Embryological terminology standard of the International Federation of Anatomists: The Terminologia Embryologica and Terminologia Anatomica,
            Ben, buy it at: http://www.thieme.com/index.php?page=shop.product… and then get back to me. You are simply not up in this field.

            See the the Carnegie Stages of embryological development at: http://nmhm.washingtondc.museum/collections/hdac/… individual indepth scientific details of each Stage can be found at: http://nmhm.washingtondc.museum/collections/hdac/….

            Then Ben needs to study the characteristics of living organisms. He'll then learn that metabolizing, catabolizing, anabolizing, growing organisms are alive. He will also learn that a living organism's morphological characteristics are dependent upon its inherent genetic characteristics, and it does not change species during development.

            Killing is the term for stopping the life of a living organism. See any dictionary.

            Ben, the schill for planned parenthood is not ashamed to appear foolish for the cause of promoting abortion and sex slavery. The money must be good, or maybe he is a starving artist. Look at the cute references he gives from his employer, as though an organization famous for lying is to be believed about anything. He gets his government regulatory info from Salon magazine.

            The proportion of actual planned parenthood health center income from surgical abortion is increasing every year, and approaching half, but this is the tip of the iceberg, since the hormonal birth control it dispenses may operate by stopping the life of an early human embryo at the blastocyst stage. Ben can proceed to the provider information of each drug product to learn this. (First he'll have to look up the word "implantation". ) Some forms exhibit this mechanism most prominently, and failure of the underage patients of planned parenthood to take these drugs correctly exacerbates this problem. Plan B operates by this mechanism fairly prominently. Ella, an analog of mifepristone, the abortion drug, also operates this way. The morning after dose of 0.5mg per kilogram is below the dose required to inhibit ovulation, and this inhibitory action does not occur during over half of the most fertile part of the female cycle.

            Anyone who sees this information should be cutting and pasting it for future reference. Much of this is available at the report of the manufacturer of Ulipristal acetate to the European CHMP. http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_libr

            Like our old feminist buddy, Germaine Greer, the Europeans see no need to lie about how the drugs work. They'd sell in Europe anyway. At least Germaine respects a woman's right to informed consent, unlike Ben.

            Now that we can see plenty of video evidence, and lawsuits against Planned parenthood for failure to comply with legal directives to report criminal sex abuse of minors, we need not hark back to a failed government effort to justify its sending tax dollars to that organization.

            Ulipristal acetate has been placed on the market (initially as a morning after pill) in order to be used off label for abortions. This will allow planned parenthood to initiate abortions in underage patients, then send them to hospitals to complete the procedure. Legitimate institutions will be co-opted into abortion practice by this means, since the missed abortion, or fetal demise has to be remedied. Abortionist James S Pendergraft is is recently notable for a similar strategy, having been caught doing it without a license. Abortions done this way are not able to be listed or counted as abortions by the CDC, and planned parenthood wouldn't have to count these either.

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  • daleyrocks

    "It was already proven that planned parenthood reported this to the fbi."

    aaron – They notified the DOJ a week after the visits after they figured out they a pattern and decided they should cover their butts. In real life I'm sure waiting a week to notify authorities is very effective, aren't you?

    • Ben_Cole

      > In real life I'm sure waiting a week to notify authorities is very effective, aren't you?

      Wait, is the claim that what PP did was "illegal" or "ineffective"? Cuz it's pretty damn ironic to say that an org is "effective" at stopping fake illegal activity that never happened. On the other hand, you can't be saying it's "illegal" b/c as you acknowledge they did notify authorities and thus were in compliance with the law.

      "cover their butts" Actually that's funny too b/c they didn't *need* to cover their butts. There's nothing illegal about joking with horrible actors pretending to be pimps and prostitutes.

      • livewell8

        Can you produce evidence that PP contacted law enforcement right after the 5 visits we have released? PP has only produced evidence that they did once. Doing the right thing 20% of the time doesn't cut it.

        • Ben_Cole

          That's right how silly of me. Of course it's my burden to prove that PP *didn't* commit a crime, since in the U.S. you're guilty until proven innocent. No wonder I'm not a lawyer!

          • livewell8

            This isn't a court of law (yet), it is court of public opinion. If Planned Parenthood had done the right thing, they would have proven it already. All the evidence says they didn't do the right thing, so I'm going to believe that until I see other evidence. Where is it man?

          • Ben_Cole

            This point has been beaten to death, but you still don't get it. The videos (edit: seem to) show misconduct. They do not show "corruption" or anything like it. As far as "corruption" is concerned, you haven't presented a single scintilla of evidence and would be laughed out of court so hard they'd think a sitcom was being filmed there.
            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti
            FBI is not allowed to comment on these types of ongoing issues. It's pretty pathetic that you take FBI policy and PP's compliance with it as a sign of guilt.

            >so I'm going to believe that until I see other evidence

            Bingo. Guilty until proven innocent just like I said.

          • livewell8

            PP has produced no evidence of doing the right thing in 4 of 5 cases and yet you believe them? Where is the evidence? Let's seek the truth on this bro. That's all I want.

          • Ben_Cole

            Yo bro. First off, even if you're 100% correct, it proves nothing. Your little acting job imposed no obligations (moral or legal) on anybody to do anything. Can you prove that any of the staffers on tape actually believed these people were "pimps"? Of course you can't, silly question.
            Second, as I stated above, the failure to produce evidence is a result of FBI policy not to comment on whether or not a call was made or whether an investigation was launched.
            Back to you livewell.

          • livewell8

            I guess we will both know the truth in detail in time.

          • Ben_Cole

            As I said before (uncontestedly), the truth is NOT necessary to set PP free. (1) This is entrapment, plain and simple. (2) Even if it wasn't entrapment, there is no evidence of corruption whatsoever. Just an absurd publicity stunt by people with a secret moral agenda.

          • livewell8

            Entrapment means to use cohesion to get someone to do something that they otherwise wouldn't do. I'm not sure how Live Action forced PP employees to act they way they did. All they did was action questions. No threats, etc. That is what entrapment is. That is what PD has to make sure they stay clear of when they do undercover drug strings.

          • Ben_Cole

            I'm not sure you understand entrapment. Essentially it is getting somebody to commit a crime that they weren't going to commit already. If the defense is raised, the prosecution must prove that the defendant was 'ready and willing' to commit a crime and that the 'sting' merely represented an opportunity.

            You overstate the 'cohesion' requirement, as you put it. "Threats" are absolutely *not* a requirement. Instead, any entrapment defense will turn on whether or not the defendant was 'predisposed' to commit a crime before the sting. (See Jacobson v. United States, 503 U.S. 540.)

            Good luck proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the PP managers were going to commit a crime before a group of silly actors walked through the door.

  • MoonChild02

    Thank you, Live Action, for all you are doing to bring down this horribly corrupt organization!

    No one should be forced to go through such abuse as is supported by Planned Parenthood. People who are considered to be part of the health community should be helping these abused women and children, not helping the abusers circumvent the law and sending the abused back to being abused. If they do not help these women and children escape and get the help they need, and do not call local law enforcement immediately to turn in the abusers, they are frauds, not real health workers.

    • Ben_Cole

      > horribly corrupt organization!

      I'm skeptical you even know what "corrupt" means. Even if these videos are to be interpreted in the way you wish them to be, there is still no evidence of corruption. No kickbacks, no bribery, no agreements to commit crime, nothing. Just plain employee stupidity and malfeasance. That is, if you're right of course.

      > People who are considered to be part of the health community should be helping these abused women and children, not helping the abusers circumvent the law and sending the abused back to being abused.

      Unbelievable. Crying crocodile tears for fictional "abused women and children", existing only in the tawdry tales invented by conservative activists dressing up as "pimps & hos." You use the word "abuse" or some variation thereof four times, even though the videos disclose no actual evidence of such abuse.

      > If they do not help these women and children escape and get the help they need, and do not call local law enforcement immediately to turn in the abusers, they are frauds, not real health workers.

      Just speechless. They DID call law enforcement.

      • livewell8

        "They DID call law enforcement." Cite please.

        • Ben_Cole

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti
          http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102010014
          http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102010014

          You're welcome.

          Edit: Also it's funny cuz you conceded below that under the entrapment doctrine espoused by the Supreme Court in Jacobson, Live Action's stunt provides no basis for any conviction whatsoever.

          • livewell8

            These articles talk about contacting the FBI. Please tell me the date and who PP reported to for each of the 5 clinics. This shouldn't be hard.

          • Ben_Cole

            How many times am I going to have to explain to you that it is FBI policy not to release these details???? Buehler. Buehler. Buehler…. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti
            "Justice Department spokeswoman Alisa Finelli, as well as FBI spokesmen in Washington and Arizona, said that under standard policy they could not comment on whether an investigation had in fact been launched. Schear said there had been some preliminary contacts with the FBI, which was asking for information from the clinics that were visited. "

          • livewell8

            Of course the FBI won't talk but Planned Parenthood could report when they told the FBI. Planned Parenthood says Jan 18th…like 6 days after the clinic visits. Where are Planned Parenthood's same day reports to local PD? C'mon man, this isn't hard.

          • Ben_Cole

            > C'mon man, this isn't hard.

            It IS hard to live up to your constantly shifting, stringent and adversarial demands for documentary information, especially since (1) obtaining phone records is costly & time-consuming; (2) PP's lawyers may be advising them not to release certain information in light of frivolous charges that may be filed against them later on; (3) the FBI may have advised/requested PP not to release any info it would see as potentially compromising its investigation; (4) even if your absurd demands were realized, I'm sure you wouldn't be satisfied to know the *exact times* the calls were placed and would only respond by demanding even *more* info and (5) there was NO ACTUAL PIMP, NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that any PP Mgr thought there was an actual pimp and thus NO LEGAL DUTY TO REPORT!

            EDIT: Oh and in case you've missed it repeatedly on our other threads. What is the line b/w appropriate and inappropriate abortions? Do you feel comfortable making that decision for other Americans? Do you feel comfortable making that decision knowing that it will only affect women and that by a mere genetic coin fliip, you will never personally have to make the decision of whether to carry to term or abort? Where do you get the moral authority to impose your views on others?

          • livewell8

            If you represent Planned Parenthood's best argument to the public about their actions, PP is going to be in for a long week…er month…er year.

          • Ben_Cole

            If you rely on ad hominems and boastful half-jokes, you're a young conservative activist with an axe to grind against people who don't think like you; who refuses to answer straightforward questions in good faith.

            Edit: I'm not PP's spokesman. If I was I however I would continue to emphasize the fact that we have 800+ health centers nationwide serving over 5 million clients, a majority of whom live beneath the poverty line. Helping people is usually good PR.

          • alexa_bear

            nice set of Qs! I have yet to see anyone on these blogs answer any of these.

          • BigFacts1

            All of those citations are fraudulent because they only make reference to the actions taken by PP after they found out that the undercover videos were being posted online. The CLINIC EMPLOYEES did not call the police to turn in the pimp.

    • alexa_bear

      "No one should be forced to go through such abuse as is supported by Planned Parenthood"

      Who is forcing anyone to walk into a PP? I know there are usually a lot of people standing outside trying to harass and shame women to prevent them entering the building, but I have never heard of anyone being forced to visit a PP. If you don't like the organization, don't take your health needs there, but don't bar access to women who need it.

      • Lucyrocha

        There ARE women being forced to go into the clinic. Victims that are abused are forced to have abortions to cover up the crime and the PP doesn’t report the crime so the patients are then sent back home where are continued to be raped. 

      • BigFacts1

        Way to go Einstein! You can’t figure out that the pimp is forcing the girls to go to PP?

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  • UTlaw2000

    Just came across this story and was reading through some of the comments. First, let me just say that I have no problem with women terminating their pregnancy. I am quite liberal, and I’d just like to address the people who claim that no crime was committed by PP employees, because the ‘pimp’ wasnt real. Providing information to someone involved, or that one believed to be involved, in the commission of a crime is aiding and abetting, plain and simple. For example, if you explained to someone how to cheat on their taxes, you could be charged with a crime. If these actors were police officers, posing as a pimp and prostitute, those employees would have been arrested immediately. The law does not differentiate between evidence provided by law enforcement, or a civilian. As far as the argument, that there is no proof that these employees believed that they were providing information to a real pimp, it has never been able to be proven what someone believed or didn’t believe in the commission of a crime. One must look at a persons actions, and if their actions show that they believed something, then they must have believed it. In my opinion, it’s pretty clear that the employees knew or should have known that the person they were speaking to was engaged in a criminal enterprise.

    As far as the argument that PP is a corrupt organization in this case, the government would have to prove that these employees acted in collusion or with direction from superiors. I doubt that there’s any evidence of that sort. I do not agree with providing federal funds to an organization like PP, but, in my opinion, it would be difficult, based on the evidence provided in the videos, that PP is a corrupt organization.

    • alexa_bear

      Great point

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  • MD

    It’s up to everyone here to do something!!!! This is despicable!! Thank you Lila Rose for doing what you’re doing!!!!

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  • Mbang_paul

    i wish i can be assisted to take this good work to my country in Africa

    • grdawg

      You should email Live Action at info@liveaction.org and ask them how you can do it in your country.

  • Brenda Chandler

    This came through to my email account and I am passing it along…….shocking and distubing and undeniable evidence of how our country and especially the women and young girls are being lied to and misled. Please take the time to consider what is really going on here, and has been for a very long time. God help us.

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