Planned Parenthood 2009 Report: We Perform 340 Abortions for Every Adoption Referral

Last year I reported that according to Planned Parenthood’s 2008 annual report they did 134 abortions for every adoption referral (they don’t do adoptions themselves).

Well I just took a look at Planned Parenthood’s latest fact sheet which pulls data from 2009 (it is July, 2011 and they haven’t released any 2010 numbers) and guess what? Abortion are up and adoption referrals are down. How bad is it?

  • 332,278 abortions of human embryos and fetuses
  • 977 adoption referrals

That makes the new ratio 333 terminations performed for every adoption referral.

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  • http://twitter.com/prolifelist ProLifeList

    Planned Parenthood truly is the abortion giant of the United States. I hope we can stop funding them.

  • Naomi

    Abortion pays, I suppose… does Planned Parenthood receive any money for adoption referrals?  If not, where’s the incentive? (Apart from the glaringly obvious moral one)

    • http://twitter.com/prolifelist ProLifeList

      Their adoption referrals consist of handing out a number to an adoption center. No other info or help. I doubt they get any money for that.

      • Anonymous

        In her book “Unplanned,” former abortion clinic director Abby Johnson makes it clear that only abortion brings home the bacon for Planned Parenthood: “I came away from that meeting with the clear and distinct understanding that I was to get my priorities straight, that abortion was where my priorities needed to be because that was where the revenue was” (page 115).

  • Anonymous

    I don’t anticipate that you will wonder what other numbers might shed light on abortion/adoption decisions, but just for the hell of it I’ll note that 2009 had more people without jobs or health insurance than 2008 did.  It saddens but does not surprise me that worsening economic conditions lead to more abortions and fewer term births.  If you genuinely want to make changes to how people deal with unintended pregnancies, you may have do more than gibber crackpot conspiracy theories about Planned Parenthood’s supposed motives.

    The other thing about the statistic that bothers me is your creative spelling of adoption “refferals.”

    Figures on unemployment in 2008/2009: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
    Figures on health insurance in 2008/2009:
    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlthins/data/incpovhlth/2009/fig08.pdf

    • Ajorjco

      Why would you assume a woman’s decision to abort over placing for adoption has to do with economics? It seems the reverse would be true if it did, since abortion would be an up front greater expense and many who support adoption also offer financial support for the mother to be. If this is the reasoning women give for abortion instead of keeping a child your argument would make sense. 

      So what “crackpot conspiracy” theory are you referring to? The one that emphatically declares abortion as immoral/dangerous and that it shouldn’t be supported by our tax dollars, regardless of economic factors?

      • Anonymous

        Why would you assume a woman’s decision to abort over placing for adoption has to do with economics?

        Births often decrease in poor economic times: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2010/08/us_birth_rate_falls_again.html

        It seems the reverse would be true if it did, since abortion would be an
        up front greater expense and many who support adoption also offer
        financial support for the mother to be.

        If the woman is not working and someone else (whether it is her family, the government, or the adoptive parents) covers all the medical expenses, then adoption would be cheaper than abortion.  If the pregnancy would cause her to miss work and if her pregnancy expenses were not covered 100%, then carrying to term could be more expensive than abortion.  In a 2004 study, 42% of women who had abortions lived under the federal poverty line, and 27% had an income of between 100 and 199% of the federal poverty level.  It’s easy to condemn these women for having an abortion just for economics, but when one doesn’t have money, one can’t afford to do things that cost money.

        There does not appear to be much literature on why women choose between adoption and abortion specifically, rather than between abortion and giving birth.  I suspect that adoption is emotionally and socially easier for teenagers who live with their parents and can keep it private, and harder for women with jobs and families, whose pregnancy would be more public.  That is just a guess on my part, however, so please refrain from condemning women on those grounds.  The vast majority of women who have abortions fall in the latter category; only 18% of women in the study who had abortions were teenagers.

        If this is the reasoning women give for abortion instead of keeping a child your argument would make sense.

        I’m glad you agree that it makes sense.  In the 2004 study I’m citing, 73% of women who had abortions said they could not afford a baby.

        Study: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.html/#6

        So what “crackpot conspiracy” theory are you referring to?

        The one that says that Planned Parenthood employees are teh ev0l people who want to kill minority baybeez.

        • Sherrie

          Why would pregnancy cause her to miss work unless she was a high-risk pregnancy?  There are infertile couples out there just waiting to pay for a woman’s medical expenses and lost wages.  The point here is that adoption is actually a very viable option economically. I posted below the statistics on how many women pay out of pocket for abortions.  IF the government or adoptive parents pay the way, an abortion could be equally, if not more, expensive.

          • Anonymous

            IF the government or adoptive parents pay the way, an abortion could be equally, if not more, expensive.

            Yes. I said that already, when I said that adoption would be cheaper than abortion of someone else covers the medical expenses.

            I tried to track down some research on adoption and abortion rates, and what literature there is consistently said that the data is not very good, but that adoptions have consistently declined over the years.  I did not find any articles that looked at data from the past few years, but research based on data collected in the 1990s suggested that abortion was not being used as an adoption alternative, because both abortion and adoption declined over the course of the decade.  Several articles suggested that the decline in adoption was due to the decreasing stigma of single motherhood, which made women more likely to keep their children.

            It turns out, though, that the data do not indicate there is a correlation between poverty and relinquishing children; rather, women who gave up children for adoption were more likely to be of a higher socioeconomic status than women who kept them.   

            You mentioned above that I did not address the issue of the rightness or wrongness of abortion.  That is correct–I didn’t.  Whether I think abortion is right or wrong has nothing to do with whether or not Live Action’s “OMG PP hates teh little baybeez!!!!” campaign is grounded in reality. 

            Articles on adoption in the US:
            http://www.futureofchildren.org/futureofchildren/publications/docs/03_01_02.PDF
            http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/s_place.pdf
            http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad306.pdf

          • Sherrie

            Just curious as to why you would read and comment on a definitively pro-life site???  And I haven’t seen anyone talk about or mention “hating babies”.  I don’t see how this article or any of the other comments have seemed like they are NOT grounded in reality.  The reality is that abortion is legal and many of us think it is utterly immoral and barbaric.  Did you know that the ASA (American Society of Anesthesiologists) has issued a statements voicing their concerns about fetal pain?  There are more laws to protect animals in this country than unborn humans.  I think the real question is and has always been the rightness or wrongness of abortion.  Everyone accepts that slavery is morally reprehensible and yet a short time ago it was legal and commonly practiced.  I think we have to ask ourselves the hard questions – human?  rights?  moral???  immoral?  No pro-choice advocate has ever been able to explain to me what a fetus is if it is not human. If it is indeed human, then why does it lack rights?

          • Anonymous

            Just curious as to why you would read and comment on a definitively pro-life site???
            I’m always trying to figure out if the site’s contributors actually believe their own lies.  It’s sometimes hard to tell.

          • scragsma

            No lies in this article; just facts. Of course we believe the truth.

    • Sherrie

      Honestly, look at the demographics of WHO is having abortions.  The largest percentage is not the economically vulnerable (although, admittedly they are part of a smaller percentage and need real help).  There are many, many organizations out there to help with the economic crisis of having an unexpected baby.  I’m not fool enough to believe that these are all-encompassing or sufficient.  It really boils down to right and wrong.  Slavery was considered a morally correct and economically necessary part of our American culture, protected by law until 1865.  When does the pure and simple fact that abortion is killing and killing is wrong, ever become important.  I think it is truly that simple.  Why did you feel the need to make a snarky comment about “gibber crackpot conspiracy” and the author’s incorrect spelling of referrals?  If you have something substantial to say, then say it and leave out the sarcasm that makes any intelligent conversation about abortion impossible.

      • Anonymous

        Honestly, look at the demographics of WHO is having abortions.  The
        largest percentage is not the economically vulnerable (although,
        admittedly they are part of a smaller percentage and need real help).

        I already did, as is discussed in the post below.  I don’t know how you define “economically vulnerable,” but almost 70% of women who have abortions have an income less than 200% of the federal poverty level.  43% of women who have abortions live at or below the poverty level.  That’s a plurality of the women, not a “smaller percentage.”

        If you have something substantial to say, then say it and leave out the
        sarcasm that makes any intelligent conversation about abortion
        impossible.

        Substantial comments, such as my post below, tend to get ignored here.

        • Sherrie

          Well, I’m not ignoring you.  I checked your statistics and they are correct for the past two years.  However, it appears that many of these women somehow find the money to pay for an abortion. While 66% of women having abortions had some type of health insurance, 57% paid for their abortion out of pocket. Among women with private health insurance, 63% paid out of pocket.  Where is the logic to this?  If I am struggling to make ends meet, how can I afford an abortion? If she is on public assistance, then all of her medical expenses would be paid should she decide to have her child.  You did not address the issue of right and wrong…how do you feel about that?

          • Sherrie

            I should have added that, while I was pregnant for my son, my husband and I were below the poverty level and nearly lost all we had worked so hard to achieve.  A baby, fetus, embryo – whatever noun you choose to use – is its own unique self and does not belong to the mother .  I am an educated person (I have a Ph.D. in Anatomy and Cell Biology).  I understand the embryology too well to accept abortion as a viable alternative to having a baby.

  • Numbers6v22

    It is sickening – If Planned Parenthood were really about ‘choice’ they would support the other options – like Adoption -  It is all about the money -

    • ibelieveingodandchoice

      they do. they give just as much information and time during appointments to discuss it… but do you really want a crackhead carrying a baby to term? Do you really think we (as a country) take care of our mentally disabled in a way that we should be proud of?

      • scragsma

        No, they don’t. Planned Parenthood mentions adoption as an option ONLY if the woman herself asks; and even then, they say only enough to discourage the woman from considering adoption. Their ‘counseling’ is one-sided, all about how abortion is the only practical ‘solution’.

      • Osowers

        I have friends that have adopted drug babies and cared for them and raised them> I have multiple situations I could tell here and none regretted it.  Some ended up leading healthy lives and some were mentality disabled but none of the parents that adopted say they regret it. 

      • Numbers6v22

        Every child is precious – no matter how they are conceived, it is tragic that a mother gets into drugs, it is a sign that our culture is askew; My friend adopted a child with fetal alcohol syndrome and adhd – she has had some trials, but my, what a talented, BEAUTIFUL girl she is – she a gymnast, musically talented, and man, can she sing!  There are so many real life stories about children born into challenging births that we can point to, and all of them – precious. 

      • Numbers6v22

        Lastly, ibelieveingodandchoice – Consider this, ending the life of your child through abortion puts you at a disadvantage. Why? because you will never know what strengths you have, or the unexpected joys of having your baby will have; having a baby is not the mistake – we all know too well how life changes from one minute to another, and basically, we have been lied to.  To say we have a choice to end the life of a human being, while living in a country based on the premise that we all have the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness – abortion is contrary to that premise. We are women, WE can have a child, WE can be happy – To say we can be president, but I can’t bring a child into the world – it would ruin my life?? Women who can do anything, but bring a child into the world? Makes us sound weak. – We need people who can empower us to do the things we thought we could not do – Having an abortion – is not a way out, it is a way in – to pain. 

  • Numbers6v22

    When did our maternal hearts grow cold enough to rationalize the killing of our children for economics? These are human beings – and many women have suffered from believing the lie that abortion is the answer – It breaks my heart to think our taxes go to fund planned parenthood… It was supposed to make the need for abortion rare… I see no evidence that Planned Parenthood actually supports women who choose life; why isn’t that a part of their plan??

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  • Sherrie

    It is shameful.  As long as there are unwanted babies and people who are willing to end their lives, abortion clinics will be money-making machines.  God help us to change the hearts and minds of these people.

    • scragsma

      Yes. But you might want to avoid the phrase ‘unwanted babies’ because there’s no such thing in the US. There are literally millions of couples out there longing for a baby to adopt, and yes a large number of them want a child of a different race and/or one with special needs.

      • Melinda

        If that were actually true, there would be no need for the fostercare system. 

  • Pdxsusan

    This makes my heart sink. I’m SOOO grateful that my kids’ birthmoms chose life. I can’e imagine life without them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.upperman Jordan Upperman

    Let’s not pretend this is an act of planned parenthood. The Greed of the medical industry has been a problem in this country for a while. There’s even better methods of curing cancer that are far more effective out there that our country doesn’t use because they’d lose TRILLIONS of dollars that they make off the current procedure. That up there? That’s business, not anti baby bastards, business men. The Heartless living the right wing American dream.

    • Sherrie

      Not quite.  You are correct in saying that the medical/insurance industry is more than a little responsible.  However, this is not about “The Heartless living the right wing American dream”.  The American dream is “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Inextricably linked the our American rights is the right to live.  Explain to me why that does not apply to the unborn.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.upperman Jordan Upperman

        No, that’s just a bullshit saying. like how the slave owning founding fathers said “all men are created equal”.  All we care about in America is money and that is pretty damn obvious…

        • Sherrie

          My!  How carefully and eloquently you choose your words!  You have utterly failed to respond in an intelligent manner to my comment.  I hope your head is not completely filled with the contempt and darkness that you have shown here.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.upperman Jordan Upperman

            I apologize, I was in a tad of a rush to church to help out with their food charity thing.  I realize that’s what the American dream is officially, but I think it’s plain to see it’s not practiced.  We live in a country that focuses on material possession and greed.  They learn it from a young age now, parents giving their kids everything they want.  It’s this materialism that leads to the above statistic.

          • Sherrie

            Now that is something we can agree on!  Greed is a driving force behind many things, sadly.  Materialism is a tough master to conquer, ESPECIALLY when raising a child. I just believe that abortion should not be the solution to an unwanted child.

    • scragsma

      Hey, Jordan, don’t change the subject.

  • pro-logic

    wow people, really? this about personal freedom and choice. women who are not ready to be mothers should not be mothers and fathers who are not ready to be fathers should not be fathers. If you desire a child, great, you will put the effort into raising it and making sure the child is raised with love and respect. If you do not want a child you will neglect and not care for it properly. Does everyone you know deserve to have children? Can you say that you have met only children loved by their parents who were nurtured into adulthood? I don’t think you can. Many people have kids because that what they think “they should do” and then make horrible parents. And a lot of the children that need to be adopted were brought into this world by parents who did not want them, do you think that the factor does not occasionally damage those kids? To know that your mom and dad didnt care? Unless the child was born and the parents died or were horribly injured.  Be reasonable, I understand that if you are religious you can not see this as right, but you are not to make choices for those who are not part of your belief system. If you do, how does that make you different than a fanatic who presses his convictions on others blindly, not leaving room for error? There are adoption agencies,,, lots of them and they provide a service,,, there is also planned parenthood that provides a different service. Both are needed for different people for different reasons, if you think  you know what those reasons are you are sorely mistaken. Abortion is not an easy choice for many to make, but they do not need others to stand over them and make them regret it. Someone said that our hearts grew cold,, they have not. Its not that planned parenthood doesn’t support adoption, can you really be so dense as to assume people don’t want children to have homes? that’s crazy! But its a shame to bring unwanted children in the world, that’s cruel because if everyone of the fetuses that were aborted were born and put up for adoption, can you even imagine how many children will never know kindness or love? Think before you judge, and if there is a god then don’t judge at all, it’s for him to do so and not for you. 

    • Sherrie

      What is shameful is that these women are often unwilling to use the FREE birth control that is available everywhere.  It is for God to judge people and not for us to do so.  As a civilized society, it is for us to judge the moral and lawful nature of abortion and any action that terminates the life of another human being. 

    • Brandy

      First off, women and men who are not ready to be parents shouldnt be humping like bunnies then. Secondly, there is the issue of birth control…if you dont want offspring, get your tubes tied, or get the Pill, the patch, the shot, an IUD…do I need to keep going?? My husband and I are waiting to have more children, and we’ve been successful at that for the last 4 years. So really, abortion comes down to the fact that a woman (or girl) wanted to have the fun and/or comfort of a sexual relationship without having to deal with the responsibilities that come with it. Women…taking one pill @ the same time every day is NOT that hard. There are people with medical conditions that have to remember much more because their life depends on it. So look at it that way…if you’re in school or can’t afford to have a child for whatever reason, then your way of life depends on that daily pill. Men…wear a condom. I know it’s not the same, but be a man and suck it up.

      • Anonymous

        According to PP’s research branch, the Guttmacher Institute, most women who get an abortion were using contraception when they conceived. The only real options are abstinence and Natural Family Planning.

      • Prolife4life

         Brandy, there are also alternatives to using artificial contraception (which in some cases cause an early abortion before signs of pregnancy occur). The use of “the pill” in itself is questionable since it is designed to make a woman’s body sick (that is, it causes the body to cease functioning in the way it was designed to function: to give life).

         Natural Family Planning is a process that works WITH a woman’s body rather than against it… it involves tracking a woman’s natural monthly cycle and abstaining from sexual intercourse during her most fertile days.

        Not having sex for two or three days a month won’t kill you or your relationship.
        In fact, couples who practice natural family planning have a 0.2% divorce rate. I believe this is because NFP safeguards a woman’s dignity and doesn’t just treat her like a dog that needs to be “fixed” to avoid unwanted pregnancy.If you aren’t ready for the commitment of having a child, you aren’t ready for the unitive act that leads you to the possibility of having a child. Men and women, guard your body and your heart from unnecessary harm, and just wait :)

    • FB123

      Hmmmm… Kill the baby or let it live a difficult life… I don’t know about you but I’d pick the latter if I was still a fetus.

      • Numbers6v22

        Hi Sherrie, I can appreciate what you are saying, however, I do not believe that contraception is the answer – Contraception was the precursor to abortion, and it is the contraceptive mentality that lead us to  abortion in the first place.  We have forgotten where we came from – our own constitution states that these three things that all of us were given which should not be taken away, that is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness – Life is paramount – no one’s liberty or pursuit of happiness can  override another persons right to life – It is what our country stands for.  I believe that our country has unwittingly and unknowingly been influenced by eugenics so much so, that we have forgotten what it is to be human.

        • Numbers6v22

          I apologize Sherrie, if I have misunderstood your intent – I agree with you here: As a civilized society, it is for us to judge the moral and lawful
          nature of abortion and any action that terminates the life of another
          human being. 

          Ethics and moral law are essential in the creation of making laws. Laws are meant to protect the common good, and we are not merely physical beings, but intellectual, emotional and spiritual as well -

    • Numbers6v22

      Fact: The human body is designed to reproduce. If you engage in sex, there is a very real possibility that pregnancy will occur.  Logic: if you do NOT want to become a parent – do NOT have sex.  It is not logical or humane to kill your offspring because you can’t say no to yourself.    

      Pro-Logic, your thinking mimics the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger; you may not realize this, but she was a racist and elitist.  Here is a quote from her: “The most merciful thing that a large family does
      to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

    • pro-choice turned pro-life

      What I find funny is that you make the assumption that a man and a women must be ready to have a child before they have even conceived one.  Seriously, how many people are actually ready to have a child? There is SO much to learn once the baby is born; it’s a continual process of learning on the part of the child and his/her parents.  Instead of running in fear of the responsibility, we should marvel at the process of life.  Second, once a baby is born the parents will most likely feel much differently about the baby; a sense of connection, love, this is what life is all about and most normal people are fully capable of loving. One of the main problems I see her is that women and men have been lied to about the nature of an unborn baby.  They have been fooled into thinking it’s “just a clump of cells” and “the product of conception”.  Give me a break – these are things told to would-be parents in order to steal their money and their babies lives.

      Pregnancy is a long 9 months. Having gone through two unplanned pregnancies I know what it’s like to have that initial shock of finding out I was pregnant. Heck, I hadn’t even held a baby before, only baby sat once – I didn’t know anything about kids.  With my first I was still pro-choice and atheist at the time, but decided not to have an abortion based on two things: 1) It was not the babies fault, therefore it would not be fair of me to make her pay for my mistake and 2) Never do anything you think you might regret – I knew I could never regret a baby, but I sure as hell could regret killing one.  Note that these conclusions were reached without a shred of religious thought – this is not a religious issue in my opinion, it is a human rights issue; the right of the unborn to LIFE. 

      But back to my other point – over that long 9 months I went from shock and nervousness to finally feeling love after I saw and held her for the first time.  Finally reality set in; this was my little girl, whether or not I was a single mother and even though her father chose not to be in her life, she was still and is loved by me, her grandmother and father, my fiancee, and her new grandparents (my fiancees parents).  I thank God that I didn’t abort my child, because if I had I know that it would have scarred me for life.

      • Sherrie

        Thank you for sharing your own, beautiful and honest story.  I totally agree that this is more than a religious issue – it IS a human rights issue.  Well said!

    • ibelieveingodandchoice

      I wish these religous people with all their big talk would start adopting and being foster parents… your all so good and so pious, until someone asks you to adopt. Oh no I only want my baby, not a baby from some poor non christian. Hypocrites. God and Jesus will take care of the aborted babies, but how dare you all sit back and judge (bless those who have adopted btw).

      • ibelieveingodandchoice

        religious* 

      • Mommy

        Oh but we do.  And my adopted children were way older than babies when we got them.  Do you have any idea how long adoption waiting lists are?

      • Numbers6v22

        I have to say, this argument does not hold water – Fact: thousands of couples are lengthy waiting lists to adopt – Some wait over 9 years to adopt. Many seek adoption from outside the US, and there are many children who are sold on the black market, kidnapped, smuggled etc – No, there are no lack of couples seeking children – There are fewer children to adopt than there are couples, and laws that hinder many foster children from being adopted.  Review your facts – I know many Christians who adopt, who have tried to adopt that had their hearts broken because of the mother backing out at the last minute…  I have to be frank, I am tired of the selfishness I see in those who make this claim. You would rather see a precious child dead because of a person’s inability to put their child before their own comfort? I have heard the claims, I can’t give up my child to adoption, bc I will never see them, and not know if they are abused – so you would rather kill the child? Think about it – There is no such thing as an unwanted child – Unwantedness may describe your feelings, but I assure you – the child is wanted by someone -

        • From the Child’s side

          The only unwanted thing in that situation would be the pregnancy itself. Sadly in our society people look down on teen girls who are pregnant, and this pushes them to abortion. We should not judge a girl just because she’s pregnant, we should help her through it, and realize the sacrifice she is making both socially and physically. If she chooses adoption, then she is even making an emotional sacrifice for another family to be completed. Thank you for understanding these difficulties of adoption. It proves that you know about what you speak, which is a nice change.

          • Numbers6v22

            Thank you for clarity and saying was left unsaid – Yes – it is the pregnancy that may seem untimely or unwanted, but not the child – Adoption is a selfless choice; Our attitudes toward adoption need to change; often parents are portrayed as if they didn’t want the child, and that is not often the case – Our society has benefited by the lives that were spared by Adoption- I am sure if we take a moment, we can think of many great people who have been adopted – like Supreme Court Justice, Clarence Thomas, for one -

      • Numbers6v22

        I just realized what your code name is stating: i believe in god and choice.  Let us look at that for a moment; God, alone gives man a free choice to choose life or death- blessing or cursing – Choose LIFE therefore so that you and your seed may live… this verse is found in Deuteronomy.  God is also the author and creator of life… you believe he makes mistakes? You believe he who is the master of the universe would allow a child to be conceived without his knowing? You believe he would be happy with the destruction of his most precious creatures because of choice?    The choice – is before you engage in sexual intimacy – as I am positive – we both understand as mature adults that the number one result of having sex is the opportunity for new life. God does NOT endorse the killing of innocent life – for the sake of choice- He believes in personal responsibility… how do I know?  bc of how it is against his own commandments, to engage in sex before marriage is sinful, that he instituted marriage for the procreation of children, he told us to go out and multiply and fill the world – Never once did he endorse of snuffing out babies within the womb. No, he says, “I knew you before you were born, I knitted you in your mothers womb’ and can a mother forget her baby? Or the child within her womb? yet, even if these forget, I will never forget my own…

      • Sherrie

        Must be SO nice to be SO smart, so much smarter than the rest of us.  I would LOVE to adopt but you have no idea what you are talking about!  It takes a GREAT deal of money, money that not all of us have, to adopt a baby.  My husband was adopted and thank God his birth-mother gave him that chance.  You’re the self-righteous little piss-ant here!  Go play with Expatriotcanadian – you sound like a goos pair!

        • Sherrie

          …and thank you SOOO mcuh for your overwhelming concern for the aborted babies “God and Jesus will take care of the…”  How misguided can you be?  Ever hear of free will?  And for the record….God and Jesus are one and the same.

      • From the Child’s side

        The problem with this logic is that in many cases, it is a Christian family that is adopting. Having grown up in a non-biological family, and in church, I have had the chance to see family after family after family adopt after hearing about how I was adopted at only 9 days old from a 15 year old girl. On top of this, the waiting lists for adoption agencies are thousands of names long, and if every family that wished to adopt could just based off of this alone, there would be very few children in the foster system today. Due to the amount of paper work, going through so many court hearings, and just the shear cost of adoption, it is not possible for families to adopt like they wish to. I know for a fact that no matter what happens in my future, if there is the slightest possibility of being able to adopt, I will, and more than likely I will adopt more than once. I also am proud of the girls my age who have found themselves pregnant right out of high school, and refused an abortion because as one of them told me, “I do not want my child’s future classmates to not have him/her. Especially if my child can have an impact on them like you did on my decision.” I will never support abortion, as it was my birthmother who had to stand up against her own mother and say no, and my birthmother who almost got kicked out of the house for refusing the abortion. Everyday I am grateful for the chance I have had, knowing that many of the other children out there were and are never going to be as lucky as I. That’s why instead of chastising the Christians for not adopting, why don’t you look into it yourself? I am only 18 years old, but I know that God created each individual fetus to grow into an infant, then a child, teen,  and finally an adult that will touch hundreds of lives if given the chance to live. But, what does an 18 year old know?

      • KeeptheFaith

         I know many couples who are waiting on adoption lists. It deeply hurts me that you would stereotype Christians so rigidly and so blindly! What saddens me even more is that many infertile couples prefer IVF or other unnatural means of conceiving above adopting a child that is already alive. Pro-life is also about safeguarding the dignity of human sexuality, and not exploiting men and women’s parts for the fulfillment of some maternal dream to have “my baby”. Stop taking children’s lives for granted… many couples in this age long for such a gift.

    • Expatriotcanadian

      Did you have an abortion? It sounds to me you are trying to cover up a guilty conscience.

      • Numbers6v22

        Expatriotcanadian – I have no idea what has prompted this comment, how could facts and logical deductions prove guilt is beyond me, however, I assure you, I have never had an abortion. In fact, I have been actively working against abortion for over 30 years, because of my love for women and the babies; I have seen the pain abortion causes women, and saw with my own eyes the destruction of the babies, this was too much for me to stand silently –

      • Sherrie

        Expatriotcanadian,
        The people here have been completely honest about there feelings.  Don’t you have some other small corner of the world where you can be miserable all by yourself?  That was an ugly and unwarranted thing to say to Number6v22!  Just because we fervently believe in something doesn’t mean we’re trying ease our guilty consciences.  You sound like a troll who obviously doesn’t have anything better to do…find a hobby…..or find something you can be passionate about.  Either way, if neither thing is possible for you, at least come up with something intelligent to say.

    • LifeGuard

       The reason why many people “make horrible parents” is because they are incapable of putting someone else before themselves.The self-centred,  hedonistic philosophy that society has been fostering for the past few decades is what increases the divorce rate, decreases the number of live births and destroys the lives of 300 Canadian children daily.

  • Jazz1018

    No. I am Perfectly fine with someone wanting an abortion, because not everyone can adopt or wants to. If it was me, I wouldn’t want my child passed through the system, I rather it be non-existent. That is if I wasn’t ready, or if I was raped, or some reason why I SHOULDN’T have a child like as in it could kill me, and possibly the child in due process.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.upperman Jordan Upperman

      Those reasons are pretty popular reasons to have an abortion. not many people have abortions because they don’t like babies. its usually the feeling of illpreperation.

    • Numbers6v22

      The problem with this thinking Jordan is that is after the fact – that a life has begun; the choice is BEFORE you engage in sex – not after… It is not like we are blind folded and do not know that pregnancy can be the direct result of having sex.  It is not a blob of tissue that you can discard – it is a real human being.  In essence what you are saying is that you  believe your child would be better off dead, even go through the cruel process of being destroyed through abortion, than to let your child live?  Have you considered that babies in utero actually feel pain??

    • JB

      Well what about what the child wants.  What if he would rather be alive?  Who are you to decide for him/her whether or not she would be better off dead?  This is a common argument used but what is the evidence that children placed in orphanages would rather be dead, how often has an orphan say they wish they were dead? 

      Even if it were true, why would you make that assumption for someone else?  What if you were in that situation, would you like it if someone decided for you whether or not you should live? 

    • scragsma

      The point is that for every child born, there IS someone who wants it, without exception. If not the biological parents, then adoptive parents. Always. Certainly, wouldn’t it be wrong to punish the child for the circumstances of his/her creation?

    • Expatriotcanadian

      Anyone can give a baby up for adoption. The only reason one would choose killing the baby over giving him or her a chance to be raised  bu a loving couple is pure selfishness.

  • Sherrie

    Hi Numbers6v22,
    My intent was not to advance the idea of birth control but rather to point out to pro-choice people that there are other options than abortion.  I personally have religious reasons that prevent use of birth control.  All I meant to say was that they all point to abortion as the only real alternative. I didn’t even dare mention abstinence for fear of being called a right wing nut job.  It is amazing how many people are just here to troll.  There have been a couple of intelligent people that have courteously disagreed with my views. That is fine…that is what civil conversation is about.  I couldn’t agree with you more.  The de-humanization of the unborn, the elderly, the mentally and physically impaired has pushed this idea of human expendability. 

    • Numbers6v22

      Hi Sherrie-
      My name is Nancy, thank you for your sharing and clarifying- I think moral people have been on the defense for a long time, and it is time we stop apologizing; speak truth in love, and realize name calling is a tool used by weak- [re: right wing nut]… For so long we have been made to apologize for the truth – and no more. I am not going to be afraid to speak in love – at least hope so-  The last line in your post is so eloquent – I totally and firmly agree. 

  • K Blaschke

    Planned Parenthood needs to stop slaughtering the innocent in the womb.
    Also quit lying to those who seek abortions and say that every thing will be better
    if you have an abortion because my friends they are wrong the girl or woman is
    scarred for life.  So if someone who reads is thinking about getting an abortion
    please don’t. Do not be afraid to have your precious child and dont give Planned
    Parenthood the chance to touch you.

  • Karina

    ha! planned parent hood doesn’t ask why.. they do what you want them to do.. that’s respecting other peoples choice… plus think about it with this bad economy who mas money to support more children

    • Numbers6v22

      Your thinking is rather faulty; Planned Parenthood does NOT respect ‘other people’s choices’ – Truth be known- it is becoming very clear as many women have spoken out their regret over having abortions is this – That they FELT THEY HAD NO CHOICE – often coherced by a boy friend or spouse, even a parent – young women are forced, ridiculed, driven – to have abortion.  The number one question that is asked in Planned Parenthood facility?? Will my BABY feel pain – PP says no – science reveals the answer is yes, the baby feels pain.  There are things in life that are worth more than money, Karina – and that is a human life. 

  • Jessa

    Good! With over 500,000 children in foster-care already we don’t need to be adding another 330,000 to the mix! There are enough unloved, unwanted, abused children and not enough homes to house those already who need it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marlaina-Sanford/100001358779658 Marlaina Sanford

    omg :(

  • M504

    The report says abortion procedures were 3 percent of services in 2009.  Most of their work is in contraception, medical testing and disease and cancer prevention.  They “helped to prevent approximately 612,000 unintended pregnancies”.  Wonder how many of those would have ended in abortion?

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  • Jklecortezlg

    Can anyone pull out the statistics of what is the end result of children that are born when the person didnt want to have but are convinced otherwise? Or the statistics of the adopted children, what their lives end up being?

  • Sam

    Most recent data: 
    Abortions: 329,445
    Adoption referrals: 824
    That brings the ratio to 399 terminations performed for ever adoption referral!

    • Sam

      as of 2/4/12

  • Trgp77

    I want to know how many abortions one woman is allowed to have through Planned Parenthood.  If a woman is allowed to have multiple abortions and use it as a form of birth control, or if the woman or teenager is in need of intervention to make sure she 
    doesn’t keep repeating the same mistake again and again, I think that is wrong, way wrong.  I could see a woman getting in trouble once and deciding to have an abortion.  But, if she is back again intervention has to happen.  Then it is wrong.